'There was doping, but not state sponsored,' former head of Russian athletics tells CBC

The man fingered by the World Anti-Doping Association as one of the people "ultimately responsible" for Russia's system of doping in athletics, rejects the watchdog agency's conclusions.

"I can say there was doping, but not state sponsored. It's a problem of coaches and athletes like in many countries," Valentin Balakhnichev told CBC news in Moscow in his first video interview with foreign media since WADA's final report into doping in international athletics was released last week.

Balakhnichev was head of the All-Russia Athletic Federation (ARAF) from 1991 until his resignation last February and also served as treasurer of the IAAF. Two weeks ago, he was banned from international sport for life by the IAAF ethics committee for his alleged role in the doping scandal.

"Corruption was embedded in the organization," the WADA report said of the IAAF.

Balakhnichev was interviewed live Wednesday night on Echo Moscow, an independent radio station. He had called the station offering to tell his side of the story.

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Valentin Balakhnichev at first didn't want to speak with CBC's Susan Ormiston after she identified herself as a Canadian TV journalist because of his bitter feelings about another Canadian: Dick Pound, who authored the WADA report that implicated Balakhnichev and others in the athletics doping scandal. (Corinne Seminoff/CBC)

CBC was the only other media present, guests of Echo, and surprised Balakhnichev on his way into the interview.

"I'm Susan Ormiston with Canadian T.V.," I began. "How are you?"

"I'm bad," he said wryly.

At first, Balakhnichev refused to speak with us, saying, "Why would I, after the document of Mr. Pound?" 

Canadian Dick Pound is the former head of WADA and the author of the recent report.

'I can sacrifice most anything for the Russian nation in order to participate in the Rio Games.' - Valentin Balakhnichev, former head of Russian athletics federation

But later on, Balakhnichev agreed to answer a few questions, playing nice and saying he was heartened to hear Pound suggest that it was "possible" Russian athletes could participate in the Summer Olympics in Rio de Janeiro in August.

"I would never like to criticize him because of his last words at the press conference — that Russia has time to recover and participate," Balakhnichev said. "I can sacrifice most anything for the Russian nation in order to participate in the Rio Games."

In Russia, Balakhnichev is 'tainted'

On Wednesday, WADA issued a news release, saying it has appointed two international experts who will work along with the U.K. anti-doping agency to help the Russian Anti-Doping Agency (RUSADA) become compliant with the World Anti-Doping Code and "re-establish public confidence in the Russian anti-doping program." A third international expert will join RUSADA's newly formed board.

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An athlete trains in the southern Russian city of Stavropol. An investigation by the World Anti-Doping Agency alleged that Russia's athletics system was plagued by rampant doping that was fuelled by corruption at the highest levels of the state athletics federation and the International Association of Athletics Federations. (Eduard Korniyenko/Reuters)

"There is much work to be done if RUSADA is to become compliant again," WADA director-general David Howman said in the release.

Meanwhile, Balakhnichev has lost almost everything: his job, his reputation and at least 1.8 million euros in a Monaco bank account that French authorities have seized.

'Where's the proof?' - Valentin Balakhnichev

State media aren't interested in his story anymore, we're told, because he is "tainted," accused of tarnishing Russia's reputation. A German television documentary on ARD implicated him in a scheme with others to extort money from Russian athletes to hide their doped-up samples.

He calls the documentary a "set up — no facts, all fantasy."

"There are a lot of words but no proof that I got money or sent money or took money from athletes. Where's the proof?" he said Wednesday.

'I'm going to fight it'

Part of the WADA report includes allegations that Lamine Diack, former president of the IAAF, was "friends" with Russian President Vladimir Putin and was quoted as saying there would have to be a "deal" to exact Putin's co-operation in anti-doping measures.

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'I'm going to fight it. I'm not afraid of anything,' Balakhnichev said of the corruption allegations against him. (Susan Ormiston/CBC)

Balakhnichev scoffs at that suggestion, saying the two were not close.

"Mr. Putin has a million friends like that," he said.

Pushed, he says, "You had big discussions about Marion Jones, about Lance Armstrong, no one said the president of the U.S. was guilty in this kind of business. This is totally unfair."

As he wrapped up our impromptu conversation, Balakhnichev said his only job now is to defend himself — daily. French police have launched an investigation into corruption at the IAAF, and Balakhnichev says he will speak to them if and when they come to Moscow.

"I'm going to fight it," he said. "I'm not afraid of anything." And that includes going to jail, he says.

"Will you speak to us again?" I ask.

"That depends on how you write your report," he says smiling, then pauses.

"How did you convince me to do this interview, anyway?"

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